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Postby Real_Zidane » 24 May 2007, 20:48

ROIUSA wrote:do any of you think the liverpool defenders, had not all 3 of them been looking at the linesman, could have possibly stopped the ball from crossing for milans 2nd goal. i think they may have, had they sprinted to the goal line.


I was wondering that myself. It looked difficult but I bet 1 of them could have made it possibly.
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Postby ROIUSA » 24 May 2007, 20:49

and i also, the 1st milan goal does hit inzaghi in the chest, but his hand is directly under the ball makign contact. theres a clear shot of it on soccernet
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Postby Real_Zidane » 24 May 2007, 20:51

You can see it hit his arm.

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Postby ratherton » 24 May 2007, 20:58

Real_Zidane wrote:You can see it hit his arm.


Exactly !!! The ball hit his arm, not deliberate and therefore there is no reason to disallow the goal.
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Postby Real_Zidane » 24 May 2007, 21:07

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Real_Zidane wrote:You can see it hit his arm.


Exactly !!! The ball hit his arm, not deliberate and therefore there is no reason to disallow the goal.


But he turns in the direction to allow the ball to hit his arm. He keeps his arm back from his body a bit just enough to get something off the ball.
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Postby ratherton » 24 May 2007, 21:19

After watching that again and again and again, I'm not even convinced it hit is arm. If it did, there is no way on earth it was deliberate.
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Postby Real_Zidane » 24 May 2007, 21:30

ratherton wrote:After watching that again and again and again, I'm not even convinced it hit is arm. If it did, there is no way on earth it was deliberate.


Knowing Inzaghi... I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was.
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Postby ajc » 24 May 2007, 21:31

ratherton wrote:After watching that again and again and again, I'm not even convinced it hit is arm. If it did, there is no way on earth it was deliberate.

And keep in mind that the replays are done in slow motion. If it was viewed in real time it would be very obvious that it was unintentional.
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Postby Hugh » 25 May 2007, 02:51

As a ref, and I could be making a wrong decision here, I would simply not give it because it was a hand ball (anything below the shoulder) and he was moving into the path of the ball and it directly resulted in a goal.

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Postby Wanderer » 25 May 2007, 17:59

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Wanderer wrote:Nah...I jz tot the players din hav enough heart...like for the 2nd goal....after the pass from Kaka to Inzaghi....once Kaka released the ball....Carragher/Risse/Agger shud hav been racing back to the goal line...if they did,there was that chance of preventin the goal....but they jz stood there...
In the 2005...when Traore lost the ball to Kaka...the whole team wud be racin back to defend....
I would say that the team of 2005 had more heart...If you watched the 2005 final again...you wud hav seen Gerrard workin hardest and givin 100 percent(after 45 min)...but in tis final...not much was seen of him....except when he missed that chance...I wud say that the 2005 team deserved to win...2007 team deserved to lose....2007 team din giv 100 percent...


what and milan had heart? Knowone deserved to lose, im trying to say this from netural now tho. If we didnt have heart we would have given up long before the 88th minute. We didnt deserve to lose, we had more possesion and chances but didnt take them.

Saying what you said is like me now saying milan didnt have heart otherwise they would have marked kuyt when he scored.

P.s can you please try write properly it really agravates me sometimes cheers.


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Postby powell » 25 May 2007, 18:49

Wanderer wrote:
powell wrote:
Wanderer wrote:Nah...I jz tot the players din hav enough heart...like for the 2nd goal....after the pass from Kaka to Inzaghi....once Kaka released the ball....Carragher/Risse/Agger shud hav been racing back to the goal line...if they did,there was that chance of preventin the goal....but they jz stood there...
In the 2005...when Traore lost the ball to Kaka...the whole team wud be racin back to defend....
I would say that the team of 2005 had more heart...If you watched the 2005 final again...you wud hav seen Gerrard workin hardest and givin 100 percent(after 45 min)...but in tis final...not much was seen of him....except when he missed that chance...I wud say that the 2005 team deserved to win...2007 team deserved to lose....2007 team din giv 100 percent...


what and milan had heart? Knowone deserved to lose, im trying to say this from netural now tho. If we didnt have heart we would have given up long before the 88th minute. We didnt deserve to lose, we had more possesion and chances but didnt take them.

Saying what you said is like me now saying milan didnt have heart otherwise they would have marked kuyt when he scored.

P.s can you please try write properly it really agravates me sometimes cheers.


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well if it doesnt matter then why start talking about it? Doesnt make sense? :?

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Postby *~El Maestro~* » 25 May 2007, 20:08

It doesn't look deliberate to me. He just flinched a bit when the ball came full speed at him like that. It looks like it bounced off his chest, but even if it hit his upper arm I wouldn't have called it because his arm was glued to his torso.
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Postby ROIUSA » 25 May 2007, 20:28

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/ ... angaol.jpg

i dont think it can get any clearer
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Postby gnarlyjim » 25 May 2007, 22:54

ROIUSA wrote:http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/ROIUSA/milangaol.jpg

i dont think it can get any clearer


Yes, we aren't debating whether or not it hit his hand, but if it was delibrate or not
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Postby milanese » 25 May 2007, 23:05

There's no way that any ref would call that a hand ball while watching it at full speed during a real game. Get over it.

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